Posts by Mr Fool

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Four BOE Letters

by pixel in

four boe letters.

read and discuss:.

requesting where can we find answers to lifes big questions?

Mr Fool

Phizzy, they define an "inactive person" with every JW who is very active on this forum ;-)

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Best "wake-up-call"-arguments?!

by Mr Fool in

hi everyone .

it was not my intention to write here anymore, but i found things that caught my interest, things that i feel to share in the hope of someone finds it interesting.. the core is that the wt surprisingly admits that what "we" believe in, is after all, only opinions (awake 2000 june 22 page9-11 "do not be a victim of propaganda).. anyone with a scan of thiese pages would make my day ;-) the questions/arguments below are built around this:.

feel free to find better arguments ;-).

Mr Fool

"Why did Jehovah allowed His organization to spread lies in 93 years, until 2013, about judging people in the last days?"

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We Pray For The Governing Body...

by jw07 in

at the meetings i've noticed over the past 2 years or so brothers asking for 'special blessings' for the governing body.

it was everyonce in a while at first.

now it is almost at every single meeting!

Mr Fool

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Best "wake-up-call"-arguments?!

by Mr Fool in

hi everyone .

it was not my intention to write here anymore, but i found things that caught my interest, things that i feel to share in the hope of someone finds it interesting.. the core is that the wt surprisingly admits that what "we" believe in, is after all, only opinions (awake 2000 june 22 page9-11 "do not be a victim of propaganda).. anyone with a scan of thiese pages would make my day ;-) the questions/arguments below are built around this:.

feel free to find better arguments ;-).

Mr Fool

Jon Preston, a good argument point, especially that it took more than 90 years for the FDS to get an "accurate" knowledge from their king Jesus. However, jw´s are forgiving to the Wt´s interpretations and claim that mistakes can happen beacause we are all imperfect (including the GB as individuals). "The GB does its best and the adjustments shows sign of new deeper understandings bla bla etc etc"

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Best "wake-up-call"-arguments?!

by Mr Fool in

hi everyone .

it was not my intention to write here anymore, but i found things that caught my interest, things that i feel to share in the hope of someone finds it interesting.. the core is that the wt surprisingly admits that what "we" believe in, is after all, only opinions (awake 2000 june 22 page9-11 "do not be a victim of propaganda).. anyone with a scan of thiese pages would make my day ;-) the questions/arguments below are built around this:.

feel free to find better arguments ;-).

Mr Fool

Especially three statements has annoyd me (I´m in the truth/I know God/I deliver the truth) and putting these statements into questions have been very interesting!

1. -When you are out in the service, do you deliever the words of God and the truth? After an "Yes"-answer:

1b. -How can you have the consciense to lie to me? After a "what do you mean"-question:

1c. -Only the one who is Perfect can deliver the truth. We who are imperfect can only deliver our convictin of what we believe is the truth, and thats complete different. So why did you lie to me?

2 -Do you know God? After an "Yes"-answer:

2b. -A humble person would never have the consciense to exalt himself to such a level of arrogance to claim that to know God. So why this selfish exaltation?

3. -Are you in the Truth? After an "yes"-answer:

3b. -Jesus is the truth and you live in the truth, do you live in Jesus?

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Jesus as the mediator for the 144,000 only

by marsal in

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does anyone know what wt issues claimed that jesus was the mediator only for the 144,000?.

i need to be able to prove it to someone who is certain that the wts never stated that.

Mr Fool

Why are the anointed (or lubricated or whatever) JW still following the masculine Watchtower instead of their mediator Jesus? As anointed, with Jesus inside the heart, there is no more need to follow a earthly organization, What has the Wt to say about this?

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In "The Truth"?

by rockhound in

while at assemblies we would often see friends" in the truth", and one of the questions they would almost always ask is, are your kids still "in the truth"?

it seemed the thing to ask, with so many falling away from" the truth".

reflecting on that expression "in the truth" i think that most witneses feel as i did, that the watchtower had pretty much cornered the market on "truth" from god's word, hence the feeling that if we stayed close the the watchtower organization, we without doubt had,or were in, or were closely associated with "the truth" .

Mr Fool

The one who claims he´s in the truth and has the Truth; where does he/she has the truth? Within his/her heart? If so, Jesus is the Truth. Conclusion; the one who has the Truth has Jesus inside him/her.

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Best "wake-up-call"-arguments?!

by Mr Fool in

hi everyone .

it was not my intention to write here anymore, but i found things that caught my interest, things that i feel to share in the hope of someone finds it interesting.. the core is that the wt surprisingly admits that what "we" believe in, is after all, only opinions (awake 2000 june 22 page9-11 "do not be a victim of propaganda).. anyone with a scan of thiese pages would make my day ;-) the questions/arguments below are built around this:.

feel free to find better arguments ;-).

Mr Fool

Hortenzie, tell me this; what´s published in Awake (outside the wt study editions) is only for the public and is not directed to the Jw´s at all?? If that´s the case I can understand your point. If that´s not the case, "we" means anyone who read it, and that includes any JW.

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Best "wake-up-call"-arguments?!

by Mr Fool in

hi everyone .

it was not my intention to write here anymore, but i found things that caught my interest, things that i feel to share in the hope of someone finds it interesting.. the core is that the wt surprisingly admits that what "we" believe in, is after all, only opinions (awake 2000 june 22 page9-11 "do not be a victim of propaganda).. anyone with a scan of thiese pages would make my day ;-) the questions/arguments below are built around this:.

feel free to find better arguments ;-).

Mr Fool

Thanks all for your point of view ;-)

If I put the question like this instead (after showing jw the article): -What does it mean that the quality of our reasonings are after all, opinions? (the translation in my language = "only opinions")

Here is the link: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102000443

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Best "wake-up-call"-arguments?!

by Mr Fool in

hi everyone .

it was not my intention to write here anymore, but i found things that caught my interest, things that i feel to share in the hope of someone finds it interesting.. the core is that the wt surprisingly admits that what "we" believe in, is after all, only opinions (awake 2000 june 22 page9-11 "do not be a victim of propaganda).. anyone with a scan of thiese pages would make my day ;-) the questions/arguments below are built around this:.

feel free to find better arguments ;-).

Mr Fool

I´ve read the propagande article again. The conclusion I get about "opinions" is that no matter how well-grounded or the quality of the reasons we have, it is still OPINIONS. I cannot find anywhere in the article an explanation that opinions will be transformed to be the Truth.

It can be turned around, asking a jw if "we" actually means myself who is not a Jw? And after, if the JW admits that, ask why the Wt lies when they use the word "we".